Wednesday, May 16, 2007

Who's Projecting What? Did God Create Man In His/Her Own Image? Or Did Man Create God In His Own Image?

Who is projecting what? Is God dead or alive? Male or
female? Black, white, or brown? Finite or infinite?
Abstract or concrete? Good or evil? Against the devil?
Or associated with the devil? Is God the whole? Or did
God create the whole? Is God nature? Or did God create
mature? Can religion be mixed with philosophy?
Science? Politics? Law? Or must religion be totally
separated from all of these more 'epistemological' as opposed to 'mystical', 'spiritual', and 'faith-oriented' domains?


This is perhaps the craziest, most convoluted essay I
will ever write. If you can follow this, you can
perhaps follow me to the most convoluted corners of my
mind. Or maybe it is not so crazy. I just finished
writing it and maybe I 'uncrazied' it. One way or the
other, this is what over 30 years of studying
psychology and philosophy can do to you. When
Anaxamander, Heraclitus, Confucious, the Han
Philosophers, Plato, Aristotle, St. Augistine,
Spinoza, Hegel, Darwin, Kierkegaarde, Schopenhauer,
Nietzsche, Camus, Sartre, Beckett, Freud, Jung, Adler,
Korzybski, Foucault, Derrida, Perls...are your
bedfellows, your mind goes to rather strange places.

Nietzsche wrote, 'God is Dead!' I write: 'God is very
much alive and working partly through all my strange
bedfellows.

Am I a religious person? Or an atheist? An agnostic? A
pantheist? A deist? All of the above? Or none of the
above? I'm still scratching my head. You read what is
to follow and you try to figure it out. For the moment
-- everything subject to change -- I think I feel most
comfortable calling myself an 'An
Anaxamanerian-Heraclitean-Platonic-Aristotlean-Spinozian-Hegelian-Darwinian
Pantheist'. You can quote me on that. I think I like
it. But if I was writing in Spinoza's time, I would
probably have to be a lot more careful about what I
was writing. Indeed, I probably wouldn't write it. I
don't have Spinoza's courage.

If you are a 'conservative, either/or person', then
you will probably not like what I have to write. If
you are a more liberal, flexible, integrative person,
then you may or may not like what I have to write. But
my odds are much better with you.

You cannot separate man from his/her egotism,
narcissism, and hedonism. And sometimes these three
factors make strange bedfellows as man tries to
wrestle between wanting to be an animal and wanting to
be God, wanting to be Apollo and wanting to be
Dionysius, wanting to be his/her 'Id' and wanting to
be his/her 'Superego'. Wanting to be his/her
'Personna' and wanting to be his/her 'Shadow', wanting
to be 'little' and wanting to be 'big', wanting to be
'inferior' and wanting to be 'superior', wanting to be
a 'topdog' and wanting to be an 'underdog', wanting to
be real and wanting to be manipulative, wanting to
'act in Good Faith and wanting to act in Bad Faith,
wanting to be associated with God and wanting to be
associated with the Devil...Need I go on?

The full embodiment of man's paradoxes are endless,
countless -- no philosopher could or can ever get to
them all. Man wants to be an animal. And man wants to
be God. Man wants to be powerful. And man wants to be
powerless. Man wants to pray to God. And man wants to
BE God.

I wrote a semi-poem a few years ago called, 'God is
the Bridge'. You can read it not far below. It was
very much a culmination -- and a spiritual embodiment
-- of my work, my philosophy up to the point that I
wrote it. It still is. And yet I look at my work, I
look at my philosophy, and I see that my philosophy --
and indirectly me through my philosophy -- is also
trying very much to be 'The Grandest of all Grand
Narratives', the 'Biggest of All Bridges'. I am trying
to take my philosophy closer to 'The Absolute' than
Hegel ever did, or ever was. Does that mean that Hegel
was 'right' in his 'dialectical theory' and in his
theory of 'The Absolute'. Or does it mean that I am a
bigger egotist than Hegel? Kierkegaard? Schopenhauer?
Marx? Nietzshe? Freud? Jung? Adler? Perls? Do you have
to write a great philosophy to be a great egotist? Or
do you have to be a great egotist to be a great
philosopher? Is philosophy any different than anything
else that man does -- or attempts to do. There are
priests and ministers who stand up at the pulpit every
Sunday morning -- indeed, I can find them on my tv in
the darkest hours of every night and the earliest
hours of every morning. They would like you and I to
think that they are the 'bridge to God'.

Look at my work and tell me that I am not trying to do
the same thing -- perhaps in a more 'secular' or
'semi-secular', 'spiritual pantheist' way. 'God is the
Bridge' is the spiritual embodiment of everything that
I have to say in my philosophy. I am writing that 'God
is the Bridge' but at the same time I am trying to
write a philosophy that 'creates a
multi-dialectic-wholistic bridge to and between man
and and man and woman and nature and God'. God is man
-- and man is partly God because man is an embodiment
of God's work. (Or is it the other way around? To be a
philosopher -- a good one anyway -- is always to be a
skeptic. Is God above Nature? Or are God and Nature
and Man all 'dialectically and wholistically
interconnected'? I opt for the latter approach. That
is what makes me a 'Hegelian-Spinozian pantheist' (to
shorten my spiritual title down a bit). I see man,
God, and Nature all spiritually, dialectically, and
wholistically connected. I see Creation and Evolution
both interconnected in an
Anaxamanerian-Heraclitean-Platonic-Aristitolean-Confucian-Spinozian-Hegelian
-Nietzshean
way.

When I get to Nietzsche, you will read my
interpretation of Nietzsche as I write about the
'Abyss', the 'Tightrope', and Nietzshe's
'Superman-will to power-will-to-excel' philosophy.
Nietzsche can divorce himself as much as he wants from
Hegel -- but I bring Nietzsche back to Hegel. For me,
his first book, The Birth of Tragedy -- Nietzsche's
first book and totally Hegelian in its construction, a
foreshadowing, a precursor, to Psychoanalysis before
Freud built Psychoanalysis -- is as important to me
and to the overall evolution of Western philosophy as
Nietzsche's supposedly more 'mature anti-Hegelian
work' later on. Freud re-connected Hegel and
Nietzsche. Jung re-connected Hegel and Nietzsche.
Perls re-connected Hegel and Nietzsche. Gap-DGB
Philosophy re-connects Hegel and Nietzsche in a way
that has perhaps never been clearly articulated
before. What is Nietzsche's Superman Philosophy and
his 'Will to Power -- or Will to Self-Empowerment',
his 'abyss' and 'tightrope' philosophy other than a
'chemical union' between Hegel and Nietzsche --
arguably the greatest philosophical chemical union in
the history of Western Philosophy. A union of reason
and passion, structure and anti-structure, structure
and process, being and becoming -- through the
evolutionary process of the dialectic. If God created
this world, then He or She created it through the
principle of the dialectic and the priniciple of
'optimal and/or homeostatic and/or dialectical
balance' -- man and woman coming together in a
chemical union both sexually and spiritually, Hegel
and Nietzsche coming together in a philosophical union
between dialectical reason and dialectical passion.
God is the Bridge but He/She is the Bridge through the
embodiment of Man and Woman and Nature and their Union
all together, as well as the embodiment of every man
and woman in all of their individual and collective
creative achievements and potentialities, in the work
of every philosopher and psychologist, every
politician and economist out there that you or I could
ever read about. And meanwhile, while God is the
Bridge that links everything and everyone together,
both dialectically and wholistically, in war and
diplomacy, life and death, love and hate, Apollo and
Dionysius, Good and Evil -- but more harmoniously in
dialectical-democratic creative negotiation rather
than trying to kill, destroy, blow each other up...and
war-mongering people seemingly trying to find a faster
way to meet God. Meanwhile, I am trying to do it a
slower, more democratic, harmonious way.
Multi-Dialectical Unity and Wholism where the
dialectic is addressed peacefully and diplomatically
through debate -- not war. But it takes two people to
debate and negotiate, and to WANT to do this rather
than to want to kill and/or overpower each other -- in
contrast, it takes only one person, or one set of
people, to create a war...God is the Bridge -- and I
am trying to meet God, man, and Nature on the Bridge
of Life, through my philosophical work...


db, Feb. 12th, 2007

Email Feedback From My Dad

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To: dgbainsky@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: God is the Bridge
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:50:31 -0400

I am having some trying days of late, but today is bright and while it
is
cold, it is fun to think.

I go back a little and come to your God is a Bridge thinking, or is Man
the
Bridge?

It occurs to me that without question, God is the Bridge.

There are countless times in life when the load gets heavy, and you
must try
to understand the unthinkable...the questions for which there are no
logical
answers. It is then we can look to the stars and imagine beyond, as
your
mother does most every clear night. She is not crazy with man contrived
theological passions. She simply finds solace and calmness in the
belief of
a greater power ... God...and allows her uncertainties and unanswerable
questions ..indeed all of her hurts and despair .. and we all have
them.. to
ride the stars (read that crossing the bridge) through the vastness of
incalculable space to a place of perfection, serenity and
understanding. It
is a bright and happy place where a person can set their load down, and
find
solace. It allows her to have inner strength that is enviable. In other
words that which she cannot understand she gives to God.

It is said you rarely see an athiest in the heat of battle. In truth,
most
all of the world with its billions of people believe in a greater
power. We
are in a state of self love and me..ness right now. If those less
endowed
could not reach out to their God, how could they bridge the death and
destruction of world savagery, or explain their children dying of
hunger and
disease?

I think your Mom is right. I have thought about it a lot in my time,
tried
to be smart, said clever things to suggest I had an angle on the
religion
thing. I come back to the simple belief in a greater power. As Einstein
remarked in his later life, no matter how many answers are found, there
are
ten thousand times more that are unexplainable except to view and
explain it
as the work of a greater power. Paraphrased and pulled from my memory
of
what he said, but that is the gist of it.

So David, I was quite fascinated with your God is the Bridge poem, for
all
of the reasons given. I hold that the title is suggestive, soothing,
and
meaningful. It is worthy of a scholar's rendering. However, it would be
easy
to crash under the weight of needing to have this God-like state proven
beyond a shadow of doubt. Then it would be a bridge to nothingness,
literally.

Dad

Monday, February 19, 2007

Email Feedback From One of My Readers -- Paul Baioni -- on Essay 18.2.

Introduction,

Paul and I have had -- and still have -- our differences of opinion mainly on the issue of 'freewill vs. determinism' but I enjoy his counter-arguments and differences of opinion just the same. Here is a sample of his style and content of philosophical argument. Also, I thank Paul for keeping up with his emails not only for the content of his feedback, and the development of his own ideas, but also -- and yes this is a 'narcissistic reason' -- partly because as in this case, I have accidently lost or deleted one of my essays, or an old version of one of my essays and then been able to recover it again through our emails. db

.....................................................................................

Hello Dave,

Whoa, I think you need a break!!!! Just kidding. You asked more
questions
than I believe you answered for sure. I have read it once, and will
read it
again. I can follow this, mostly at least, because I am not as
intimately
familiar with the works and teachings of these philosophers and such as
you
are. Even though I have only a partial understanding, I can grasp the
concepts rather easily and can understand the dilemma that you are
questioning. And in that light I would like to respond in my own rather
simplified way of reasoning and understanding of man and our existence.
Of
course you know my position, and I know yours, contrasting styles in
many
ways, not only in presentation but also conceptually.

You reference God in such a variety of ways that you definitely are
struggling with the concept of his existence. You even to some extent
question his existence. God is alive, God is everything, God is dead,
and
God is nothing. Does that clear it up for you????? Let me explain if I
can
in a more detailed way.

God is alive in the sense that he plays a very important role in our
society. God(s) has/have been the explanation for everything that man
in his
limited wisdom has been unable to explain. If I don't know, it must be
God
sent, or created by God, or at the hands of God, or the work of God.
God has
also been associated with everything that man considers good, just as
the
Devil is associated with evil. Blind faith in God is a very strong
influence
for man. A belief, especially a strong one, no matter what the source
is, or
its verifiability, its origin, SP, IP, religion or whatever, is real to
man
and drives man's actions. Based on the fact that he exerts such a
strong
indirect influence in society, he is very much alive.

God is everything. God is responsible for everything that we know,
everything we see, feel, dream, every experience, and every event in
our
lives. God is responsible for the evolution of everything in man's
existence, good, evil, finite, infinite, pleasure and pain, physical
and
mental, therefore being the creator, his is everything that evolution
has
produced. He is all positive and negative energies. Polar concepts just
like
so many other things in our lives. God is also the energy that drives
it
all, the light, electromagnetic, sound, and every other influence that
the
scientists have been able to discover, conceptualize and those they
have yet
to imagine. It all ties together to form our existence. God truly is
everything. God is Nature, not just earthly nature, but the natural
order of
things, physics laws, etc.

God is dead. In man's limited understanding of our existence, God is
totally
an indirect influence, he is a creator, but not a controller. By not
having
direct influence, he could easily be considered dead. We can not
imagine his
being, we can not understand his power or influence. We truly do not
know
God for what he really is. Failing to understand, failing to define,
failing
to find any verifiable evidence of his existence, in human terms God is
dead. Do we have any physical evidence to support anything that has
been
conceived to be God?

God is nothing. There is no God except as having been defined by
scripture.
His influence is only imaginary, that is, being only an influence
because
man has defined him as an influence in many ways through the
scriptures. He
has basically only been defined in man's mind. God neither controls nor
manipulates anything. He is purely creation, that is all. By
definition,
things without influence of any kind are deemed non-existent, for every
other known thing in our existence exerts influence of some kind. A
vacuum,
void of any element of any kind is considered sterile, nothingness,
much
like the vast majority of space found in our universe.

Religion is philosophy, both are based on pure beliefs, faith,
conceptualizations of the unproveable. Politics and law are man created
philosophies, but based on the individual IP's of those that created
them,
similar to religion except that religion is based on perceptions of an
unknown, while politics and law are based more upon a democratic
process of
creation. Science is also based on perceptions, but grounded in
empirical
evidence, thereby differentiating it from religion which is based upon
conjecture. Lacking in many ways a democratic process of creation, it
also
differs from politics and law. They are similar in the respect to the
influence they carry on our beliefs, our IP, and SP in general. All are
intricate to the creation of all other philosophies, individual and
social.

Man's is an emotional and mental mess, driven by so many humanly
natural
desires which are all based on what we consider polar concepts. The
internal
struggle is very real for it is based on our beliefs, real or
imaginary, and
they are what drive our IP and our resulting actions and our paths in
life.
This is the basis of all human existence. To say that any one is better
or
worse than another is purely subjective, for they are all natural and
all
purely human desires and emotions. To grade them as good or bad is to
measure them in light of SP. SP exists in all forms with extremely
varying
concepts. To Americans, SP is grounded in totally different
fundamentals
than anywhere else in the world. All SPs are developed from collective
IP of
their creators, so each is based on equal ground. So how can we stand
in
judgment of SP's that are different from our own? Were they not created
from
the same source, from the same creator, God, since he is ultimately
responsible for our entire existence? Does he judge one over another?
Does
he not influence the creation of all, dare I say through the natural
evolution of everything? So how can we judge what he does not? Man is
the
embodiment of all desires, yes I agree with you on that, and that is
such a
natural thing that we dare not argue with that, but is that bad or
wrong? I
say not!!!!!!

Does that mean I have to accept everything that is against what I
believe?
No again. My IP is my personal guide, just as with everyone else. If I
perceive injustice, it is my choice to react or to let live. If the
injustice is such that I feel the need to react, to counteract the pain
created for others, then that is my prerogative, just as everyone has
the
choice to act according to their own IP.

Humans are perfect. Humans are terribly flawed. Humans are everything
that
we are, nothing more or less than we were created to be. We live as we
must,
and die when we will. We have little control over our birth and almost
as
little control over our death. We live, we breathe, we learn, we
develop, we
are inhabited by an IP that is created and formulated from genetics and
environment, and it guides our actions until one day we live no more.
This
totally natural process occurs mostly with minimal control. We suffer,
we
rejoice, we feel for others while ignoring most of what happens around
us,
we exist in a world that could end through no fault of our own. Our
time is
limited, highly controlled by nature, and in that respect we are
terribly
flawed.

I have read your poem, "God is the Bridge." You basically admit to the
fact
that everything is connected. You talked about an absolute, a meaning
to it
all, the essence of our existence, which is basically the concept that
I
have tried to impress upon you from the beginning. Everything is
connected
through nature. Man, earth, God and the entire universe. There is a
bridge
and it is a very simple concept, the absolute meaning of it all.
Everything
you wrote is true, you just can't seem to take the final leap and give
up
the notion of control. To be totally connected, to be totally equal, to
be
totally bridged, we must come to a single thread of truth about our
existence. All men were created equal, in fact, everything in our
existence
was created equally, all emotions and desires are equal, all are
evolved,
all are uncontrollable (in a very basic sense), and all interact in a
way
that drives our existence, our evolution, our creation and our demise.
If
you take away any single part of our existence, things will change, the
evolution will be altered and forever cast in a new light. It doesn't
matter
what that thing is, it impacts. Our thoughts will change, our beliefs
will
be altered, our actions will shift, and all this shifts the evolution
for
everyone. Every single action is accounted for, every single thought is
accounted for, every single physical/natural event is accounted for and
it
all occurs in the same natural environment known as the evolution of
our
existence.

But you are wrong about one statement you made. It takes two to start a
war,
not just one. If I have something you want, and I am not willing to
give it
to you voluntarily, then I am contributing to the war. If I have
beliefs
that make it impossible for me to cede control or to give up, then I am
also
creating the war. For if you hit me, and I do not hit back, there would
be
no war. So to say that one person can create war is wrong. Many people
tried
to create war on Jesus, and his apostles, but without retaliatory
efforts,
there was no war. This sometimes leads to an extermination effort, such
as
the Jews in Germany, or the Crusades, or many other similar actions by
insane humans, but that is not war. Just like they say it takes two to
tango, it takes two to start a war. I could go much deeper into this,
but
time does not permit that here.

You fear that you may be considered an evangelist (maybe an
exaggeration),
but when you consider that you are attempting to influence people
concerning
concepts that are highly personal in nature, the way we feel, what we
believe, then yes you could be considered in that light. When you try
to
tell others that what they are doing or what they believe or feel is
wrong,
then you are seen in a very similar light. If you hold yourself to a
strictly objective level and present facts without judgment (for that
is a
very personal and subjective thing) then you will be okay. You can
influence
without criticism, for people get defensive when you tell them that
what
they believe is wrong, or bad. Do not insult someone's intelligence by
telling them that their personal beliefs are wrong, let them figure it
out
for themselves. If I read what you write and am influenced by it, then
that
is okay, but don't ever tell me what to believe or that what I believe
is
wrong, at least not directly. Stay objective, present facts and let
people
do with that information what they want, or what they will.

God and nature are one in the same, man is a byproduct of those forces
that
were created billions of years ago, by whom, or what I do not know. But
I do
believe that everything has all evolved and is continually evolving,
being
and becoming. We never will be, we are always becoming.

Personally, I rather enjoyed reading through your personal dilemma. Is
that
morbid for me to enjoy your personal struggle? I think it is wonderful
that
you are curious enough to push the envelope of our limited
comprehension,
seeking enlightenment. You crave knowledge and understanding and that
is a
great personal attribute to have. The struggle of comprehension is the
pain
which makes the gains all that more enjoyable, for without
understanding
suffering, we know not joy. I, like you, understand the connection
between
conflict, the challenging dialectic that builds bridges of
understanding.
The greater the bridge, the closer we get to the "absolute". Keep up
the
construction, one day you may find what gives you peace, the inner
peace
that comes from an ultimate understanding of our existence. In that
search
somewhere, you will realize the importance that acceptance of the
uncontrollable plays in that. I may hold different beliefs, but my
level of
inner peace is very high, and that is what all humans seek, for with
that
comes the ability to be happy, to grow, expand and reach our true
potential.
The negatives surrounding the unknown fade and all energies are focused
on
positive growth and greater peace.

Did I grasp your concepts well enough, I could have addressed each
statement
individually, but I felt that I understood enough to cover my response
in a
broader sense. Was I right or did I miss the whole point?

Good luck and back to you,
Paul


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The main purpose of any humanistic religion -- as I see it -- is to counter-balance man's propensity for selfishness, greed, excess, egotism and narcissism with the opposite characteristics such as altruism, caring, love, generosity, helping people who are struggling, moderation, ethics and morality. Much of this is supposed to be taught in families and at school as well being demonstrated by good role models in society such as politicians. But as religion loses power and narcissism gains power - espcially when kids see narcissism rampant at home with parents who are not getting along and/or not spending enough time at home, all of the characteristics designed to counteract human narcissism start to lose their power as well. Humanism dies the more narcissism prevails. There are two types of 'anti-humanism'. One is the anti-humanism of 'self-denial'. The second is the anti-humanism of 'narcissistic excess'. Both need to be balanced in the middle by a combination of 'self-assertiveness' and 'social sensitivity'.

Religion is still feeling the fallout of Nietzsche. Nietzsche bombarded Christiianity and Judaism with his criticisms of a 'religious herd morality' and 'the preaching of self-denial' in this life in order to atone for 'original sin' and to be accepted by God into a much better 'afterlife'. Nietzsche in particular and humanists in general protested that this was all 'balderdash' - and a waste of human life. Individualism and enjoying this life should be the ideal; not the condemned. Gradually, people took more and more heed, and orthodox religion lost more and more power.

However, as Hegel has written, and I am partly paraphrasing, 'Any theory, any philosophy, any lifestyle, any religion carries with it the seeds of its own destruction'. The limitations, weaknesses, hypocrisies, and anti-humanism of religion was exposed by Nietzsche but so too is the philosophy of Nietzsche and current Western culture and society showing all the limitations, weaknesses, hypocrisies, and anti-humanism of too much Nietzsche and too much narcissism. Ethical narcissism is leading us to to the brink of ethical nihilism.

The solution to the problem is simpler in theory than it is in practice: balance. I will try to capture the spirit of this balance and the spirit of 'humanistic religion, spirituality, deism, and/or pantheism' in the following poem that I wrote a few years ago and have been updating ever since. It is called: 'God Is The Bridge'. It idealizes balance as the 'bridge and the zone of health between pathological extremes'.

Wednesday, February 14, 2007

Second Paper on Gap Humanistic-Existential Pantheism

Those who dwell...among the beauties and mysteries of the earth are never alone or weary of life. . . Those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find reserves of strength that will endure as long as life lasts. The more clearly we can focus our attention on
the wonders and realities of the universe about us,
the less taste we shall have for destruction.
Rachel Carson





In dealing with the religion one has been taught, one has a number of choices -- and this goes, not only for religion, but for everything that one has every been taught. The formula that follows incidentally, is predominantly a Gestalt formula, which is a modification of some earlier Freudian (Psychoanalytic) ideas. One can/could also easily turn or construe this in Hegelian terms as a 'Hegelian evolutionary-learning formula' as well: 1. 'Introjection' (thesis): Simply 'swallow whole' everything one has been taught and don't challenge anything that one has been taught; 2. Rebellion and Rejection (anti-thesis): Rebel against and reject everything that one has been taught -- and in essence, 'throw it all back up again, out one's mouth', because one has come to the conclusion that it is all toxic and pathological, and has not one iota of 'nutritional value'; 3. Assimilation (integration, synthesis): One 'chews' and 'absorbs' the beliefs that one concludes are 'nutritional' while 'spitting back up and out' the beliefs that one concludes are 'toxic and pathological'.

Everything that I have written, and will continue to write, in this philosophical process and system (structure) follows this basic formula -- that is why this philosophical venue is partly called 'Hegel's Hotel'. I follow classic Hegelian dialectical theory in my thinking -- with some 'humanistic-existential and non-deterministic' modifications -- which makes me a 'post-Hegelian philosopher'.

So here is the number one problem: How do I fit 'non-secular' ideas and beliefs into a 'secular philosophical process and system' -- or is attempting to do this in itself a 'pathological process' because it defies 'secular, empirical sensory validation and reasoning'? For you 'hard line secular-empirical philosophers' out there who choose to completely reject any form or type of religion that defies standard secular-empirical -epistemological principle -- and from this, choose to become either 'atheist' (don't believe in God) or 'agnostic' (have no way of proving or not proving the existence or non-existence of God), I have no problem with either of your philosophical positions. Because from a strictly 'secular, empirical, epistemological' point of view -- the point of view that has been the foundation of both our democratic system of science and medicine, and our system of law, going back at least to the 'Enlightenment' period of Western philosophy. (See both the internet 'Wikipedia' articles on the Enlightenment, and a very good synopsis of the history of the Enlightenment by Paul Brians -- underneath the Wikipedia articles (Google) Created by Paul Brians March 11, 1998. Last revised May 18, 2000. This gives a very good background on much of the 'humanistic-existential' philosophical historical tradition that is central to my own evolution of philosophical thought development -- and as such, is creating the impetus here and now to 'reconcile and integrate' these ideas with my orthodox but very liberal rendition of the Protestant beliefs that come from my family background.

View these ideas to come as being very formative, in their infancy, if you will, as I struggle to find a 'spiritual and/or religious' position that is consistent with my post-Spinozian, post-Hegelian, post-Nietzschean multi-dialectical, humanistic-existential, philosophical position. For those of you who are strongly religious in an orthodox, traditional way, you do not have to read what is to follow. You can spit my ideas out if you don't like them. Or -- if you are struggling with your own sense of 'spiritual-religous self' and are looking for some form of integrationism between 'secular-empirical, Enlightenment-Romantic philosophy' and more traditional spiritual-religous beliefs and values -- much like what Spinoza was doing in his time, and perhaps even before that, Heraclitus in his time -- then maybe you will find something below that is provocative, inspiring, innovative, and/or just some kind of quasi 'spiritual-philosophical foundation' that you can rest your head on and/or build from. Welcome to a new area of evolution in my post-Hegelian philosophical thought. This is not for the Conservative-minded.

Firstly, the main problem I have with most contemporary, hardline, orthodox religions is this:

Their appeal to the unchallenged authoritarianism -- and often the 'sado-maschocistic delivery and moral enforcement' -- of the Church, its rulers, its customs, its supposed 'revealers of the words of God' (i.e, the Pope, priests, ministers, evangelists, and the like) at the expense of what i would call more 'humanistic-existential and Enlightenment-Romantic' beliefs and values.

Now let me be very clear on this next point: sometimes, indeed oftentimes, traditional orthodox religous values and humanistic-existential, Enlightement-Romantic values are very compatible and interchangeable with each other -- especially in such areas as: 'loving, caring, altruism, generosity, helping others, particularly helping those who are struggling in whatever way, family values, and so on...'

Where traditional, orthodox religions and proponents of humanistic-existential, Enlightenment-Romantic values tend to split company -- not totally but to a significant degree -- is in such inter-related areas as: hedonism, narcissism, sex and sexuality, sensuality, egotism, individualism, rebelliousness, 'living in the here-and-now -- and enjoying it' -- and the like.

For most proponents of humanistic-existential and Enlightenment-Romantic values, I would say that there is generally much more of a 'liberal-mindedness, an acceptance and/or a tolerance' of a significant degree of the types of 'narcissistic-hedonistic' activities mentioned above that is not generally nearly as accepted and/or tolerated as by most orthodox religions.

The reason is simple: the orthodox religions know as well as anyone -- or better -- that human narcissim and hedonism can, when it is taken too far, be the root of much human evil, destructiveness, and self-destructiveness.

However, paradoxically, hedonism and narcissism can also be the core of much human pleasure and enjoyment in living. To eliminate all forms of human hedonism and narcissism from living -- which I would say is next to impossible because they are 'hard-wired' into us -- arguably by 'God', perhaps partly for reasons of continuing Creation and Evolution (would anyone -- or nearly as many people, as often -- have sexual intercourse if the experience was generally 'painful'?).

Thus, proponents of orthodox religious beliefs and values have, can, and do, come into conflict with proponents of Humanistic-Existential-Romantic-Enlightenment beliefs and values (let's short form this and call the latter types 'HERE' types) over the extent of how much 'hedonism' and 'narcissism' should play a part in people's 'normal, moral, day-to-day behavior and living'.

How do we resolve this conflict? Or do we?

The argument goes a long way back -- back to the 14th and 15th century. I cite the Paul Brians article from the internet mentioned above:

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The Renaissance Humanists

In the 14th and 15th century there emerged in Italy and France a group of thinkers known as the "humanists." The term did not then have the anti-religious associations it has in contemporary political debate. Almost all of them were practicing Catholics. They argued that the proper worship of God involved admiration of his creation, and in particular of that crown of creation: humanity. By celebrating the human race and its capacities they argued they were worshiping God more appropriately than gloomy priests and monks who harped on original sin and continuously called upon people to confess and humble themselves before the Almighty. Indeed, some of them claimed that humans were like God, created not only in his image, but with a share of his creative power. The painter, the architect, the musician, and the scholar, by exercising their intellectual powers, were fulfilling divine purposes.


This celebration of human capacity, though it was mixed in the Renaissance with elements of gloom and superstition (witchcraft trials flourished in this period as they never had during the Middle Ages), was to bestow a powerful legacy on Europeans. The goal of Renaissance humanists was to recapture some of the pride, breadth of spirit, and creativity of the ancient Greeks and Romans, to replicate their successes and go beyond them. Europeans developed the belief that tradition could and should be used to promote change. By cleaning and sharpening the tools of antiquity, they could reshape their own time.


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This shows that humanism (or humanistic-existentialism) and religion do not need to be divorced from each other but often are divorced from each other on matters of what it means -- and/or should mean -- to be human.

The philosophical problem for me becomes: how do I philosophically, morally, and spiritually reconcile and/or integrate -- if this is possible -- Nietzsche, religion, humanism, and existentialism? And how do I reconcile and/or integrate -- again if this is possible -- Nietzsche's most infamous and provocative philosophical assertion, 'God is dead!', with religion, spirituality, humanism, and humanistic-existentialism?

Let me get a number of Gap-DGBN definitions onto paper and working as a backdrop here as quickly as possible:

1. 'Gap' refers to the 'void(s)', the 'abyss(es)' in human existence, in human philosophy, in truth, in ethics, in all of human life and culture...The term 'gap' was first taken from a Gestalt book by Fritz Perls where he said -- and I am paraphrasing here because it could take me a while to find the exact quote (it was about 20 years ago that I read it) -- that his form of psychotherapy (Gestalt Therapy) basically dealt with diagnosing and dialectically working with the 'gaps in peoples lives and personalities'.

2. 'DGBN' is an acronym partly for: 1. my name; 2. 'Dialectical-Gap-Bridging-Negotiations' (which is what I am doing here in this essay as well in most of my other essays); and 3. 'Democracy Goes Beyond Narcissism' which is my main lament and criticism against Western culture.

3. 'Humanism' in Gap-DGBN Philosophy refers to 'compassion', 'empathy', 'sensitivity', 'altruism', 'love', 'generosity', 'caring' in human philosophy and human behavior;

4. 'Existentialism' in Gap-DGBN Philosophy refers to the 'accountability' of each and everyone of us to our own 'selfhood', and a 'willingness to take responsibility for own own thoughts, feelings, actions, and lack of actions, capabilities, potentialities, limitations, failures, successes...and 'bridging the gap between being and becoming' both in our personal lives and ideally in the betterment of mankind...

5. Humanistic-existentialism integrates the best of both capitalist and socialist ideology and idealism -- human self-assertiveness and individuality with human compassion, sensitivity, and caring about others.


Now where does Nietzsche fit in the scheme of these definitions? I would call Nietzsche a full blown existentialist (individualist) but not a humanist in the sense that Nietzsche did not philosophically, or in his own life, show much, if any, support for human empathy, compassion, altruism, caring about others, etc. His was a very 'un-compassionate' philosophy -- Capitalist-narcissistic-conservative ideology and idealism both at its best in terms of its existential-individualistic values and its worst in terms of its hard line narcissistic-ultra-Darwinian idea of 'who cares if you walk over your neighbor and what he or she wants as long as you get what you want'. Nietzsche -- even if he was totally against Nazism, German Nationalism, and Antisemitism -- still did/does not sound like he was a very compassionate, caring, humanistic person. It was all about Nietzsche and his own personal and philosophical brand of narcissism. From what From what I have read, he fell significantly in love at least twice, maybe three times -- and does not seem to have much success in love -- spurned twice in two different marriage proposals with two different women (1. a young Dutch woman, Mathilde Trampedach, in 1876; and 2. a young Russian girl, Lou Andreas-Salome, in 1882, who later became an intimate of Freud); and -- perhaps he even fell in love with Richard Wagner's wife Cosima -- see Alan Ryan's short essay on the internet, 'The Will To Madness', January 24th, 1999...


The Will to Madness
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The story of Friedrich Nietzsche's fateful relationship with Richard and Cosima Wagner.
By ALAN RYAN



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Nietzsche was not without friends but for the most part he was a usually physically sick and, from most accounts, was a psychologically lonely man who perhaps -- and this is my interpretation -- compensated for some of the core of his deficiencies in health and love -- with a very compelling, charismatic, articulate intellect 'that blew most, if not all, of his academic and non-academic competitors and adversaries away'. He did indeed create a philosophical earthquake of the highest proportions in both in Western philosophy, psychology, and Western culture as a whole, starting in the late 19th century -- and with us ever since -- the repercussions and fallout of which we are still very much feeling today. Did Nietzsche 'free' us from 'oppressive, anti-humanistic, anti-self-oriented religion, only to condemn us to a polar opposite and equally oppressive and bad life of -- 'self-infatuated, anti-compassionate, narcissism'?

Once again, Anaxamander's Fragment (and Law) comes to mind -- the 'Case of the Swinging Pendulum' -- black and white, male and female, religious and anti-religious, bourgeois and the proletariat forces will never be or become totally divorced from each other, as hard as they might try, as much as they each might vie and fight for their own particular and 'unique form of philosophical and narcissistic lifestyle supremacy' (or 'will to power'), first one taking the spotlight while the other is in the shadows, then a 'reversal of fortunes' while the tide turns or the pendulum swings in the opposite direction, and what was bright is now dim, what was dim is now bright, what was up is now down, what was down is now up....always consciously or unconsciously, purposely or non-purposely, freely or deterministically, looking for that perfect, mystical, mythical dialectical union...that oasis of life, or is it a mirage...like the perfect sexual, emotional, and spiritual intercourse...before the perfect union is over...every good thing has to come to an end sooner or later...and if you hang onto what was once a 'perfect union' for too long because you are afraid to lose it...which you inevitably will...you develop what Fritz Perls called a 'hanging on bite' which is no longer 'good contact' but rather 'pathological, symbiotic confluence' because everything and everyone must go through the natural life process of 'contact' and 'withdrawl' (the Gestalt therapists call this process 'organismic self-regulation') and 'too much of anything for too long is a bad thing...it's eventually going to turn stale, stagnant, and/or toxic'...everything and everyone is 'in flux' (Heraclitus)...and eventually everything and everyone in contact with something or someone else is going to have to go through a temporary or permanent state of withdrawl and individuation again...either in health and/or in pathology...only to hopefully and ideally come back together again stronger and more united than ever...this is my own Gap-DGBN integrative (post-Anaxamanderian, post-Heraclitean, post-Spinozian, post-Hegelian, post-Nietzschean, post-Christian brand of philosophical, psychological, political and religious-spiritual ideology and idealism. Nietzsche and Christianity (narcissism and altruism) need to meet in the middle. Divorced from each other they are both intolerable. Same too with Plato and Aristotle. Same too with the Enlightenment and Romanticism. Same too with Apollo and Dionysus. Same too with Adam Smith and Marx (Capitalism and Socialism), Conservativism and Liberalism. Same too with 'superego' and 'id', 'personna' and 'shadow', 'topdog' and 'underdog'...humanism and existentialism. For each belief, value, goal, and action, there is a counter-belief, counter-value, counter-goal, and counter-action. For each philosophy there is a counter-philosophy. The 'truth' and the 'ethics' of it all usually somewhere between the 'swinging pendulums of human extremism and righteousness'. Gap-DGBN Philosophy, through the reincarnation and embellishment of Anaxamander's Fragment and Law, and through Hegel's Hotel, is -- if you permit my boldness and partial egotism (I have played the 'underdog' a lot more in life than I have played the 'topdog') -- here to show you the way.

dgbn, Feb. 18th, 2007.

Wednesday, September 06, 2006

First Paper on Gap Humanistic-Existential Pantheism

This is new territory for me -- an idea that has been perculating in the back of mind for a while and slowly gathering steam in a particular direction. An integration of sorts between Hegel's dialectical theory, Spinoza's wholism, romanticism, spiritualism, and pantheism, and my humanistic-existential values and beliefs. Thus, I am going to call this evolving idea -- 'Dialectical Humanistic-Existential Pantheism.

This is not the first time that I have integrated Spinoza and Hegel. The idea of dialectical wholism comes partly from Anaxamander and Heraclitus, it comes partly and very romantically from Plato in The Symposium (the only part of Plato that I really like), but mainly it come from an integration of Spinoza and Hegel -- two opposite perspectives, polarities, lifestyles, impulses, people... coming together to integrate into a more 'complete whole'. This is what I am calling dialectical wholism. You see the development of the idea of dialectical wholism (without it being called that) in Freud and Psychoanalysis (our 'id' and our 'superego' needing to integrate together into a more 'harmonious dialectical whole'), in Jung and Jungian Therapy (our 'personna' and our 'shadow' needing to get it together into a more harmonious dialectical whole), in Perls and Gestalt Therapy (our 'topdog' and 'underdog' needing to integrate into a more harmonious dialectical whole) -- in each case here, the goal of psychotherapy is basically to 'heal alienated dialectical splits in the personality by bringing them together into a more harmonious, integrative dialectical whole'. I would argue that all forms of social or cultural psychotherapy should be aiming to do the same -- political psychotherapy, business psychotherapy, medical psychotherapy, legal psychotherapy, philosophical psychotherapy -- in every case, the social goal should be to harmoniously integrate opposing social perspectives. Every area of human culture should be continually looking to evolve into a better dialectical whole within the particular domain of its existence and functioning. Partly, for example, you see this happening in the field of medicine as Western and Eastern medicine, orthodox Western medicine and natural health medicine more and more start to blend into one -- ideally a better dialectical whole than what we had before when orthodox Western pharmaceutial medicine (and all its 'unmentioned' side effects) ruled the roost without any impediment from rebellious, outside paradigms of medicine (i.e., Eastern, nutritional, natural health medicine, and other alternative therapies...). Thus, in very much the way that Hegel theorized, the dialectic has been very active between orthodox and alternative medicine over the last 10 years or so, acting as 'self-correcting' mechanism that is helping in the ongoing evolution of medicine -- helping it to evolve into something better than it was ten years ago due to the outside critiques of an opposing medical paradigm that is now in the process of becoming integrated with the medical paradigm that it was critiquing. This is what I am calling 'dialectical evolution' and opposing paradigms coming together -- integrating -- into a better 'dialectical whole'. It is only one step -- or maybe one leap -- further from dialectical psychotherapy, dialectical social therapy, and dialectical humanistic-existentialism -- to dialectical humanistic-existential pantheism.

Here we introduce the concept of God in a Spinozian, pantheistic fashion. You can also see where I am going with this idea if you read my poem, God Is The Bridge. I had an email friend of mine say that I have a 'pretty expansive' view of God. Yes, I do. I believe that Spinoza was a more religious, spiritual, humanistic person, than the orthodox religious people who 'ex-communicated' him (beheadings were not uncommon back in his time and he was tredding close to this territory as well).

Pantheism is sometimes viewed as being a 'sneaky form of atheism' -- there is still talk of 'God' but God is no longer our Creator -- rather He (or She) is all of Creation. God is in you, God is in me, God is in Nature, God is in everything in the Universe...So how do we get from Pantheism to Dialectical Humanistic-Existential Pantheism? Allow me to introduce my own brand of metaphysics -- 'epistemologically unprovable' but still potentially meaningful and valuable. It is, my opinion, way better than Hegel's metaphysics. I don't buy into his metaphysics built around his concept of 'The Absolute'. Better knowledge -- and especially anything that might come anywhere close to being construed as 'Absolute Knowledge' or 'Absolute Consciousness' (how would we know when this is? -- the answer is, we wouldn't) is only as good and only as valuable as the extent to which it leads us to better living, better contact, better communion with ourselves, who we are, and who we are capable of becoming -- and more importantly getting there; better communion with other people, especially with the one's who are, or who are supposed to be, closest to us, most important to us, better communion with Nature, and in all of these similar but different ways -- better communion with God.

This is where dialectical humanistic-existentialism meets dialectical pantheism. We can all think back to our 'greatest moments in life', our 'greatest moments of contact' -- it could have been a most intimate moment with another person or even a group of people, with nature, or with our self, relative to one of our greatest achievements. Think back to maybe a special speech at a wedding (or a funeral) that made you cry. I call these greatest moments of contact -- these extra special moments in our life -- not only communions with the special person or people we are having the special contact with -- but also communions with God.

I am calling dialectical, humanistic-existential pantheism. God is the bridge between you and me -- in that special moment of contact, when the dialectic is working to bring people together and unite them harmoniously -- black and white, Muslim and Christian, Lebanese and Israeli, U.S. and Iraq -- not working narcissistically, righteously, in 'either/or' fashion to alienate, enrage, and tear people apart. This is my humanistic-existiential ideal -- democratic-dialectical evolution, democratic-dialectical wholism, democratic-dialectical humanistic-existentialism, and democratic-dialectical pantheism. The essays I will write in this philosophical journal will be aimed at striving for and meeting these dialectical ideals.

I guess maybe I have destroyed the mystery of the story here, because I have given you the end of the story -- at the beginning. Everything else is, and/or will be -- meat and fat filling up these bones.

dgb

Tuesday, September 05, 2006

The Influence and Potential Inrfluences of Philosophy and Psychology on Religion

There is a point where philosophy, psychology, politics, law, economics, art, and religion all meet -- or at least they should -- and that is around humanistic-existential values and principles. (There is also a point where some realms of human culture -- such as politics and religion -- should never meet which is a major part of the subject of the essay that appears below this one.)


For our purposes here, we will look at the ethical connecting point of philosphy, psychology, and religion aruond humanistic-exsitetntial values and princioples within and outside of the human psyche. This builds on numerous DGB principles established in earlier essays and emails (see links).


A person's IP (individual philosophy) is only one thing, albeit an important one
thing, going on in a person's personality or psyche.
There are other important factors, important parts of
the personality that influence its structural and
dynamic makeup and process.

There are a host of different psychological models out
there that you can choose to buy into, modify, or
reject, and I will use ('choose') a combination of
about five different models to lay out the combined
philosophical-psychological scenario that I present to
you below.

Firstly, there is the Self -- a modified Jungian
concept (filled with humanistic-existential principles
that I have added along the way) that I use to
describe that part of our personality that used to be
called our Soul. The Self-Soul is our Internal God, a
critical part of our entire psyche or personality that
we need to deeply heed. It contains a mixture of
physio-genetic and psycho-genetic traits and
blueprints that are capable of giving our life deep
meaning -- if we heed them, and live our life in
congruence with them. Congruence is an important word
here and the polar or dialectical opposite concept and
phenomenon to congruence is alienation. When we live
our life in 'good faith' (Sartre), we live our life in
congruence with the genetic blueprints in our
Self-Soul, in a way that also ideally fosters external
social harmony, respect, and integrity. Here we run
into a problem because we are talking about both a
self and social ideal that is based on
humanistic-existential values that many if not most
individuals and societies do not come close to
achieving. I will list 15 such humanistic-existential
values; 1. freedom to allow self-determination; 2.
narcissistic-hedonism (in balance with the other
values trumpeted here, and not to the point of
trodding on the other values listed here); 3.
acceptance (as long as the values being accepted are
in 'good faith'); 4. assertiveness; 5. respect; 6.
responsibility/accountabliity; 7. honesty; 8.
sensititivity, caring, empathy and compassion; 9.
fairness; 10. initiative/pro-activeness; 11. courage;
12. integrity; 13. persistence/perseverence; 14.
optimism; 15. romance; 16. spirituality and/or
religion based on humanistic-existential principles;
16. generositiy and altruism (giving and giving back
to family, friends, loved ones, community,
strangers...); 17. Multi-dialectical,
humanistic-existential evolutionary wholism; 18.
Multi-dialectical, humanistic-existential,
evolutionary democracy; 19. Multi-dialectical,
humanistic-existential business and economics (a
dialectical integration of guiding Capitalist and
Socialist principles)law, politics, medicine, art,
entertainment...
20. lest we forget -- fun, leisure, humor, play...

So Paul, for me, it is important that our guiding IP
be congruent with humanistic-existential principles
that stem from our unpoisoned Self-Soul, which in
turn, if you wish to take it this far, stem from our
Creator, our Intelligent Designer, and/or God.

When we act in congruence with the type of
humanistic-existential principles that I have listed
above, and am attributing to my mythological,
humanistic-existential God, then we can say that our
actions are based on a God-influenced, and God-like
self and social integrity (which we don't see a lot of
in our overly narcissistic-hedonistic driven world).

There are other factors that enter into this picture
such as 'introjected' and 'fake' ideologies (IPs) that
are meant to hide and/or distort what is really going
on underneath the glossy, proclaimed ideology. These
introgected and fake ideologies or IPs are obviously
carried on in 'bad faith'.

I will leave my ideas here for the time being.


DGB, Sept. 5th, 2006

God Should Be Viewed as an Idealistic-Mythological Concept; not as an Epistemologically Real Ruler of Man

This may be hard for many, many people to accept but taking the relgious viewpoint that God is an epistemoligical reality, our Creator, that rules over man is a generally patholigical viewpoint. It is pathological for two main reasons: 1. it hides or obscures the fact that all religions are man-made projections and ethical systems based on a combination of healthy and pathological real, professed, and/or hidden human values; and 2. allowing people to think that religious messages are messages 'delivered by God' allows the men and/or women who created these messages the opportunity and 'allleged God-given right' to avoid all responsibility and accountablity as far as the relative 'health' and/or 'pathology' of the 'ethical or unethical' message that is delivered. Millions of people have died from the swords and bullets behind 'professsed messages from God' while both the leaders and the followers behind these messages, swords, and bullets attempt to escape -- often successfully -- all responsibility, accountablity, and culpibility for their actions.


I have no problems with any of the great religions of the world -- other than the fact that they all need to represent themselves as man-made, idealistic-spiritual-religious mythologies answering to humanistic-existential values and principles (see my next essay); not as 'systems of indesputable, God-given messages, truths, and values'. This latter belief in itself is pathological, and as stated above, accountable for countless human wars, deaths, and misery.


If or when the leaders of the Taliban, Iraq 'insurgents', Iran, North Korea...etc. come out and epistemologically and ethically state that they are fighting a war against 'American Imperialism and domination', then they have a leg to stand upon and the American people need to take a long, hard, objective look at what they are doing over there in Iraq and Afghanistan, and how they are, in large part, alientating the rest of the world with their currently very debatable 'democratic' vs. 'imperialist' foreign policy. However, as long as the Taliban and other political and war leaders over there continue to mix in their professed 'God-given rights to holy missions, holy wars, and armed combat (jihad) to eliminate all Jews and/or whoever else is not living up to their Islamic extremes, then they will continue to be painted -- rightfully so -- as 'terrorists' and as 'evil'. Religion needs sto be taken out of politics and 'God-given messages' need to be taken out of religion. The U.S. needs to learn that it does not have the 'unadulterated and unilateral right' to determine world ethics and policy -- particularily when it is becoming more and more clear to the rest of the world that American ethics and policy has become more and more poisoned and corrupted by American Narcissistic Capitalism (particularly what Eisenhour called the 'Military-Industrial-Complex', with the isse of oil probably not far behind) that is making a mockery of the so-called American ideal of the term 'democracy'. This is not a strictly American phenomenon as Narcisssitic Capitalism as well as Narcissistic Religion (especially of the jihad type) is poisoning, corrrupting, and destroying the world. All human establishments, organizations, structures, nations, and policies including the United Nations need to be re-built on the basis of humanistic-existential values -- that means a healthy balance of 'human compassion' and 'human accountability'; not people passing off, avoiding, and/or justifying their crimes against humanity on the basis of either 'messages from God' and 'holy wars' or alternatively imperialist wars that are justified in the name of 'freedom' and 'democracy'. Religions need to be based on humanistic-existential values and principles; Capitalism needs to be based on humaistic-existential principles; politics needs to be based on humanistic-existential principles. Philosophy needs to be based on humanistic-existential values and principles. Medicine needs to be based on humanistic-existential values and principles. And all of these different areas and systems of human culture need to evolve dialectically and democractically as well as humanistically and existentially. Indeed, I would list multi-integrative-evolutionary-dialectical-democracy as a core set of humanistic-existential values and principles. This is not 'fake-narcissitic-dialectical-democracy' that we are talking about here but rather 'real-gut-wrenching-dielactical-democractic'. One of the leaders of Iran came out not too long ago and 'challenged' the U.S. to a debate. It blew my mind. An offer like that -- regardless of the credibility of the person or persons that it came from, particularly if it came from a leader of highly volatile nation, a nation that could be involved in the next World War -- should not be quickly or lightly dismissed. The U.S. should have quickly supported, approved, and encouraged that line of action -- even if only to find out how serious Iran was about such a possibility.

Alas, I have moved too far out of the realm of religion and intio the realm of policitics, even if they are intimately entwined.


Enough said for today.

dgb, September 5th, 2006.

Referencer: The movie 'Why We Fight'


* DGBN
* David Gordon Bain
* (Humanistic-Existetnial)Dialectical-Gap-Bridging-Negotiations
* Democracy Goes Beyond Narcisism